Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124
03/07/2023 01:00 PM House TRANSPORTATION
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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE
March 7, 2023
1:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Kevin McCabe, Chair
Representative Sarah Vance, Vice Chair
Representative Tom McKay
Representative Craig Johnson
Representative Jesse Sumner
Representative Louise Stutes
Representative Genevieve Mina
MEMBERS ABSENT
All members present
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
HOUSE BILL NO. 81
"An Act relating to the transfer of a title on the death of the
owner; and providing for an effective date."
- MOVED HB 81 OUT OF COMMITTEE
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: HB 81
SHORT TITLE: VEHICLES/BOATS: TRANSFER ON DEATH TITLE
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) RAUSCHER
02/22/23 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
02/22/23 (H) TRA, STA
03/02/23 (H) TRA AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124
03/02/23 (H) Heard & Held
03/02/23 (H) MINUTE(TRA)
03/07/23 (H) TRA AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124
WITNESS REGISTER
REPRESENTATIVE GEORGE RAUSCHER
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: As prime sponsor, answered questions on HB
81.
TIFFANY THOMAS, Deputy Director
Division of Motor Vehicles
Department of Administration
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions relating to the
Department of Motor Vehicles, during a hearing on HB 81.
ACTION NARRATIVE
1:00:29 PM
CHAIR KEVIN MCCABE called the House Transportation Standing
Committee meeting to order at 1:00 p.m. Representatives
Johnson, McKay, Vance, Sumner, and McCabe were present at the
call to order. Representatives Mina and Stutes arrived as the
meeting was in progress.
HB 81-VEHICLES/BOATS: TRANSFER ON DEATH TITLE
1:01:05 PM
CHAIR MCCABE announced that the only order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 81, "An Act relating to the transfer of a title
on the death of the owner; and providing for an effective date."
1:02:12 PM
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE asked if HB 81 impacts commercial vessels.
1:02:39 PM
REPRESENTATIVE GEORGE RAUSCHER, Alaska State Legislature, as
prime sponsor of HB 81, answered yes.
1:03:07 PM
CHAIR MCCABE commented that when HB 81 was first heard, there
were no fiscal notes. He relayed fiscal notes from previous
iterations of the legislation; there was a zero fiscal note in
2016, a $60,000 fiscal note in 2019, and today the bill has a
$70,000 fiscal note. He said the quick increase is concerning
but there has been no indication in how much the Alaska
Department of Administration (DOA) would make if it were to
start charging a fee on [Transfer On Death (TOD) titles]. He
stated that the fiscal note should be indeterminate because it
is unknown as to what the revenue would be.
1:05:00 PM
The committee took an at-ease from 1:05 p.m. to 1:08 p.m.
1:08:48 PM
CHAIR MCCABE relayed that there are concerns with the fiscal
note. He informed members Tiffany Thomas with the Division of
Motor Vehicles (DMV) is on the phoneline; he asked Ms. Thomas
about the $75,000 fiscal note and why it is not an indeterminate
note.
1:10:00 PM
TIFFANY THOMAS, Deputy Director, Division of Motor Vehicles,
Department of Administration, responded that the costs were
implemented due to the programmatic changes that would need to
be made to implement the title document language that would be
put on the title itself.
CHAIR MCCABE pointed out that the verbiage on the fiscal note
explained that 600 hours are needed to make the changes. He
asked Ms. Thomas to confirm that information.
MS. THOMAS answered yes, 600 hours is the number estimated by
the DMV's program team. Regarding the $75,000, the statutory
mechanism for fees is already in statute, so that is why nothing
was added into the fiscal note, it was to not change the fee
structure.
1:12:18 PM
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES questioned how the fiscal note can go from
zero in 2016, to $75,000 today. She expressed that it's odd
that initially DOA could absorb the costs, but now it will cost
600 hours. She asked Ms. Thomas how the fiscal note can go from
zero to $75,000.
MS. THOMAS responded that she would need to do research and
follow up to provide an answer.
1:13:14 PM
REPRESENTATIVE C. JOHNSON asked if all state programmers are
making $120 per hour.
MS. THOMAS explained that the programmers are hired through the
DOA Office of Information Technology (OIT).
1:13:41 PM
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE suggested that the committee hear from OIT
since HB 81 requires about four months of work solely on a
change to TOD title servicing. She said that is not efficient
work and challenges the fiscal note.
1:14:22 PM
REPRESENTATIVE C. JOHNSON suggested that the committee send an
indeterminate fiscal note to the House Judiciary Standing
Committee. He pointed out there are members of that committee
in the House Transportation Standing Committee. He said sound
policy for transportation means passing HB 81.
CHAIR MCCABE offered his understanding that the next committee
of referral was to the House State Affairs Standing Committee,
and he posited that committee could make the same consideration.
1:15:04 PM
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE moved that the fiscal note for HB 81 be
changed to indeterminate for operating expenditures and changes
in revenues. There being no objection, it was so ordered.
1:15:29 PM
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES asked for clarification regarding the next
committees of referral.
CHAIR MCCABE answered that following the House Transportation
Standing Committee, HB 81 would be heard by the House State
Affairs Standing Committee next, and then it could be referred
to the House Finance Committee - if the fiscal note cannot be
reconciled.
1:15:50 PM
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE moved to report HB 81 out of committee with
individual recommendations and the accompanying amended,
indeterminate fiscal note. There being no objection, HB 81 was
reported out of the House Transportation Standing Committee.
1:16:44 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Transportation Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 1:17
p.m.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 81 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HTRA 3/7/2023 1:00:00 PM |
HB 81 HB 81 Sponsor Statement |
| HB 81 Sectional Analysis Version A.pdf |
HTRA 3/2/2023 1:00:00 PM HTRA 3/7/2023 1:00:00 PM |
HB 81 HB 81 Sectional Analysis Version A |
| HB 81 Version A.PDF |
HTRA 3/2/2023 1:00:00 PM HTRA 3/7/2023 1:00:00 PM |
HB 81 |
| HB 81 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HTRA 3/2/2023 1:00:00 PM HTRA 3/7/2023 1:00:00 PM |
HB 81 |
| HB 81 Fiscal Note DOA DMV 2.24.23.pdf |
HTRA 3/7/2023 1:00:00 PM |
HB 81 |